[sc34wg3] RE: [tmcl-wg] RE: New version of TMCL Requirements, use cases and specification (Dmitry)
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Hi,
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Thanks for the feedback and comments.
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In the first example the intent was to epress that exactly and only the =
roles described were allowed but in the second it is saying that these =
two roles must be present BUT that other roles, either of the same type =
or different types may be present.=20
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So in one sense it is about the cardinality of the roles but it is also =
about the ability to have ANY other kind of role in there for which, =
potentially, no additional constraints are defined. You could define it =
as two roles that are non-optional and have a specific type and N roles =
of N cardinality with no type constraint. But I think that is for the =
standard to define, whereas the focus of the UC document is to illicit a =
feel for the nature of the way topicmaps can be constrained.
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So, I do not think you are wrong but the nature of this UC document is =
not to capture the generic patterns but more to scope smaller idioms; =
with that in mind I think the two cases are seperately valid.
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regards,=20
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Graham
________________________________
From: tmcl-wg-admin@isotopicmaps.org on behalf of Giovani Librelotto
Sent: Mon 01/11/2004 20:28
To: tmcl-wg@isotopicmaps.org
Cc: sc34wg3@isotopicmaps.org
Subject: [tmcl-wg] RE: New version of TMCL Requirements, use cases and =
specification (Dmitry)
Hello there,
In new version of TMCL Requirements and Use Cases <URL:
http://www.jtc1sc34.org/repository/0548.htm>, section 4.1.1.U3 (Valid
subject indicator), which is the difference between the items 'a' and =
'b'?
For me, both define the cardinality of subject indicator, so it's the =
same
kind of constraint. Am I wrong?
Best regards,
------------------------------------
Giovani Rubert Librelotto
Ph.D. Student - Informatics Department
Universidade do Minho
Braga - Portugal
grl@di.uminho.pt
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of the roles but it is also about the ability to have ANY other kind of =
role in =0A=
there for which, potentially, no additional constraints are defined. You =
could =0A=
define it as two roles that are non-optional and have a specific type =
and N =0A=
roles of N cardinality with no type constraint. But I think that is =
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standard to define, whereas the focus of the UC document is to illicit a =
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to scope smaller idioms; with that in mind I think the two cases are =
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<P><FONT size=3D2>Hello there,<BR><BR>In new version of TMCL =
Requirements and Use =0A=
Cases <URL:<BR><A =0A=
href=3D"http://www.jtc1sc34.org/repository/0548.htm">http://www.jtc1sc34.=
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section 4.1.1.U3 (Valid<BR>subject indicator), which is the difference =
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the items 'a' and 'b'?<BR>For me, both define the cardinality of subject =0A=
indicator, so it's the same<BR>kind of constraint. Am I wrong?<BR>Best =0A=
regards,<BR><BR>------------------------------------<BR>Giovani Rubert =0A=
Librelotto<BR>Ph.D. Student - Informatics Department<BR>Universidade do =0A=
Minho<BR>Braga - Portugal<BR>grl@di.uminho.pt<BR><BR><BR>> =
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