[sc34wg3] [tmcl-wg] Scope support in Ontopoly

Graham Moore gra at networkedplanet.com
Wed Jul 1 14:56:18 EDT 2009


Hi,

I've added it here http://projects.topicmapslab.de/issues/868.

cheers,

Gra

2009/7/1 Steve Pepper <pepper.steve at gmail.com>:
> I wasn't aware that this couldn't be expressed in TMCL.
>
> That would appear to be a major omission. I can't imagine a multilingual topic
> map for which one would *not* want to have an enforceable policy regarding which
> *specific* languages should be used for which particular types of name and
> occurrence.
>
> Will you register this as a TMCL issue?
>
> Steve
>
>
> | -----Original Message-----
> | From: ontopia at googlegroups.com [mailto:ontopia at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
> | Lars Marius Garshol
> | Sent: 01 July 2009 20:15
> | To: ontopia at googlegroups.com
> | Subject: Re: Scope support in Ontopoly
> |
> |
> |
> | * Steve Pepper
> | >
> | > I could envisage a variant of this ("Fixed-2"), based on an extended
> | > definition of "given field":
> | >
> | >   ["s-type"] + [type] + [scope]
> | >
> | > This would allow us to do quite a bit more than today. For example a
> | > topic could have two (default) names (of type 'tmdm:name-type'), one
> | > of which was in the unconstrained scope and the other in the scope
> | > 'norwegian'. (This is not possible with "Fixed-1".)
> |
> | This is not expressible with TMCL today. You can say
> |
> |    language isa tmcl:topic-type.
> |    # define 5 instances of language
> |
> |    topic-type has-occurrence(field, 5, 5).
> |    field has-scope(language, 1, 1).
> |
> | but you cannot require the five occurrences of the type field to all
> | have different instances of language in their scopes, except by using
> | a user-defined constraint.
> |
> | > Assuming we agree that multilingual topic maps are best done using
> | > scoped names, rather than typed names, then this capability is
> | > clearly something that we need.
> |
> | It is not easy to avoid that conclusion, no.
> |
> | --Lars M.
> | http://www.garshol.priv.no/tmphoto/
> | http://www.garshol.priv.no/blog/
> |
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