[sc34wg3] www.topicmaps.com (and topicmaps.org)

Wed, 12 Oct 2005 10:50:51 -0700

+1 with a comment that I am quite amazed at the blog entry referenced
by Lars-Marius to the topic maps list, the entry in which XTM is
referenced, and in which the notion of XML topic maps come into
question. I cannot help but think that the topic maps community is
giving the world all the appearances of a terribly dysfunctional
family.

Jack


On 10/12/05, Hunting, Sam (LNG-EWR) <sam.hunting@lexisnexis.com> wrote:
> +1 but would reframe the issue to the positive proposal of following the
> best practices of Dublin Core with respect to artifacts generated by the
> topic map community.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sc34wg3-admin@isotopicmaps.org [mailto:sc34wg3-admin@isotopicmaps.o=
rg]
>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 9:12 AM
> To: sc34wg3@isotopicmaps.org
> Subject: RE: [sc34wg3] www.topicmaps.com (and topicmaps.org)
>
> I was just about to write exactly the same, so instead I'll just write:
>
> +1
>
> Kal
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sc34wg3-admin@isotopicmaps.org [mailto:sc34wg3-
> > admin@isotopicmaps.org] On Behalf Of Bernard Vatant
> > Sent: 12 October 2005 13:42
> > To: sc34wg3@isotopicmaps.org
> > Cc: Sam Oh
> > Subject: RE: [sc34wg3] www.topicmaps.com (and topicmaps.org)
> >
> >
> > Murray just pointed this among other considerations, but the XTM 1.0
> > namespace is under
> > topicmaps.org domain
> > http://www.topicmaps.org/xtm/1.0/
> >
> > It would be silly to have nothing at this URL, which IMO should be kept=
,
> > if nothing else,
> > to stand as a PSI for the original XTM 1.0 specification, which, whatev=
er
> > one can think
> > about it, is a subject worth being indicated. Not to mention other PSIs
> > defined in this
> > namespace, even if they are superceded by further XTM specifications.
> >
> > I'm as amazed as Murray is that one would want to drop this legacy
> > altogether.
> >
> > Bernard
> >
> > ----------------------------------
> > Bernard Vatant
> > Mondeca Knowledge Engineering
> > bernard.vatant@mondeca.com
> > (+33) 0871 488 459
> >
> > http://www.mondeca.com
> > http://universimmedia.blogspot.com
> > ----------------------------------
> >
> > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > De : sc34wg3-admin@isotopicmaps.org
> > > [mailto:sc34wg3-admin@isotopicmaps.org]De la part de Steve Pepper
> > > Envoy=E9 : mercredi 12 octobre 2005 12:53
> > > =C0 : sc34wg3@isotopicmaps.org
> > > Cc : Sam Oh
> > > Objet : RE: [sc34wg3] www.topicmaps.com (and topicmaps.org)
> > >
> > >
> > > * Lars Marius (reporting from Montreal)
> > > |
> > > | The issue of site ownership (that is, ownership of the domain) was
> > > | also discussed, and possibilities listed were:
> > > |
> > > |  - the secretariat (SCC at present),
> > > |  - the chairman (Jim Mason at present), or
> > > |  - the secretary (Ken Holman at present)
> > > |
> > > | Since none of these were available at the meeting nothing further w=
as
> > > | done about this.
> > >
> > > * Jim Mason
> > > |
> > > | On the matter of onwnership of the domain, probably not
> > > | wise to associate it with an individual, like Ken or me.
> > > | Better to associate it with the organization, SC34 Secretariat.
> > >
> > > An agreement has been signed with Empolis transfering ownership
> > > to SCC. We need now to decide where to host the site.
> > >
> > > | As for possible hosts, some alternatives came up: Ontopia could hos=
t
> > > | it, we could host it the same place as isotopicmaps.org, and Sam Oh
> > > | said he thought he could get a funded project in Korea to host and
> > > | develop it. The consensus was that the last option was the most
> > > | attractive, if Sam can indeed get the funding.
> > >
> > > I would prefer to see one of the National Bodies as host, so
> > > I have Sam's proposal, if he can get funding.
> > >
> > > Regarding content, I think Lars Marius' list is a good start:
> > >
> > > | - a list of available PSI sets
> > > | - news/announcements regarding meetings, conferences, new tools, ne=
w
> > > |   projects, etc
> > > | - a list of publicly available topic maps
> > > | - links to the standards
> > > | - tutorials and guidelines, should anyone write some and want them
> > > |   posted, or linked to
> > > | - links to TM user groups around the world
> > >
> > > This also raises the question of what to do about topicmaps.org.
> > > It was frozen in 2001 because of disagreements in an organization,
> > > TopicMaps.Org, which no longer exists. The question is, is the
> > > community's interest served by allowing it to continue to give the
> > > impression that nothing has happened with Topic Maps since 2001?
> > >
> > > I personally would like to see it closed down with a redirect to
> > > topicmaps.com. If it is not to be closed down, the home page
> > > should at least contain a prominently displayed notice informing
> > > readers about the status of the site.
> > >
> > > What do others think? Do we have any idea how many hits the site
> > > gets?
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > --
> > > Steve Pepper <pepper@ontopia.net>
> > > Chief Strategy Officer, Ontopia
> > > Convenor, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 34/WG 3
> > > Editor, XTM (XML Topic Maps 1.0)
> > >
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