[sc34wg3] Re: WG3 Atlanta recommendations (draft)
M.Altheim
sc34wg3@isotopicmaps.org
Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:39:25 -0000
All,
Just to clarify, I've been in communication with Michel and
agreed that we would continue with further communication
regarding the details of the topicmaps.org website on the=20
SC34 list. I've read through Michel's proposal and have no=20
particular issues with it. I do have two suggestions that=20
I've forwarded on to Michel in response to his message to me:
1. that the person doing the work you've set out for=20
me should be described by role, not name, and that
the role should be described as "archivist". You=20
would then assign me the duties of being the current
archivist.
2. that as versions of TM specifications are developed
and existing documents are rendered obsolete, those
documents should be passed to the achivist for proper
cataloguing, storage, and posting on the historical
portion of the website.
This would put me both in a position of responsibility (as=20
archivist) and require that obsolete documents are passed
to me so that they can become part of the historical web pages.
My schedule right now is a bit crazy, but within the next week
or so things should even out and I'll begin to have some time
to start working more diligently on the web site.
Murray
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Murray Altheim http://www.altheim.com/murray/
Strategic & Service Development=20
The Open University Library
Milton Keynes, Bucks, MK7 6AA, UK
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La corne d'un Chamois, & la face vermeille
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: sc34wg3-admin@isotopicmaps.org=20
> [mailto:sc34wg3-admin@isotopicmaps.org] On Behalf Of Michel Biezunski
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 4:29 AM
> To: sc34wg3@isotopicmaps.org
> Subject: Re: [sc34wg3] Re: WG3 Atlanta recommendations (draft)
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> Ken, Steve, and all:
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> On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 22:33, G. Ken Holman - ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 34
> Secretary wrote:
> > At 2005-11-15 15:30 -0500, Michel Biezunski wrote:
> > >Steve,
> > >
> > >I got your email but not the attachment. Could you resend=20
> it please?
> > >Thank you,
> > >
> > >Michel
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> > Steve has already left, so here is his attachment. I'll be making=20
> > this a numbered document for the web site when I do the=20
> paperwork in=20
> > preparation for tomorrow's closing plenary session.
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> > . . . . . . . . . Ken =20
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> Ken, Steve, and all:
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> Comments about the following section:
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> <H4>9. Appreciation to Michel Biezunski and Empolis</H4>
> <P>WG3 requests that SC34 express thanks and appreciation to Michel
> Biezunski for his kind offer to donate the domain topicmaps.org to
> SC34 on behalf of WG3.</P>
> <P>WG3 requests that SC34 express thanks and appreciation to Empolis
> GmbH for kindly donating the domain topicmaps.com to SC34 on behalf of
> WG3.</P>
> <P>Assuming that the transfer of topicmaps.org to SC34 can be
> accomplished before December 20th 2005, WG3 will use this=20
> domain for all
> namespaces and PSI sets that it publishes in connection with ISO 13250
> and other Topic Maps standards. Failing that, the domain topicmaps.com
> will be used for this purpose.</P>
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> I propose the following changes in section 9:
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> <H4>9. Appreciation to Michel Biezunski and Empolis</H4>
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> THIS PARAGRAPH SHOULD BE REWRITTEN:
> <P>WG3 requests that SC34 acknowleges the proposal by Michel
> Biezunski to donate the domain topicmaps.org to SC34 on behalf of WG3=20
> under certain conditions and moves forward towards an agreement
> taking into account the conditions expressed by Michel Biezunski
> during the meeting and expressed below.</P>
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> <P>WG3 requests that SC34 express thanks and appreciation to Empolis
> GmbH for kindly donating the domain topicmaps.com to SC34 on behalf of
> WG3.</P>
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> THIS PARAGRAPH SHOULD BE DELETED:
> <P>Assuming that the transfer of topicmaps.org to SC34 can be
> accomplished before December 20th 2005, WG3 will use this=20
> domain for all
> namespaces and PSI sets that it publishes in connection with ISO 13250
> and other Topic Maps standards. Failing that, the domain topicmaps.com
> will be used for this purpose.</P>
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> -----------------
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> Background Information:
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> I have not yet donated, but submitted a proposal to donate,
> topicmaps.org
> to SC34 provided certain conditions are met (see below the proposal
> I submitted during the meeting).
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> Moreover, I was not aware about the December deadline, which was
> not discussed during the portion of the meeting I attended. I=20
> would like
> to understand what is the signification of this date, why=20
> SC34 considers
> that if the transfer is not effective at that date, the PSIs have to
> be put to topicmaps.com. Not that I have any interest of delaying the
> transfer, but I want to make sure that we have a full agreement in
> place with all the details solved. And it was my understanding
> that the reason why SC34 wanted to control topicmaps.org was mainly
> because of the PSIs.
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> If the date has to do with a deadline for the submission of the=20
> next iteration of a specific document, we could decide in advance
> that changing the name of the PSIs URLs amount to a typographical=20
> correction, with no impact on the content of the standard, which=20
> would give us the time to properly negotiate until a final agreement=20
> is reached, if necessary.
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> Here is the draft proposal including the conditions under
> which I am proposing to transfer the ownership of topicmaps.org.
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> -----------
> November 14, 2005
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> About topicmaps.org
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> 1) Topicmaps.org ownership would be transferred to SC34, through the
> Canadian Standards Organization, and will be controlled by SC34
> with the exception of a section devoted to the history of
> topicmaps.org. This section would be placed under the management of
> Michel Biezunski with full authority over the content. There will
> be a disclaimer saying that SC34 is not responsible for the content
> of that section. SC34 understands that the section of the web site
> is done as a service provided to the TopicMaps community, and that
> SC34 acknowledges that it won't be able to influence the content of
> that section. There should be no time limit to this agreement.
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> Michel Biezunski intends to put Murray Altheim in charge of
> that section of the web site. The plan is to publish a
> comprehensive history with a record of the various versions of the
> documents that were created by topicmaps.org. It will be used and
> presented as archival material and will be done in a very rigorous
> and professional manner.
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> 2) A notice will be published on topicmaps.org saying that this domain
> name was donated by Michel Biezunski, who was the initiator and
> co-founder of the activity once called "topicmaps.org", as well as
> a co-editor of the XTM specification from the beginning until
> January 2001. This notice will be permanent and will be put on the
> home page (http://www.topicmaps.org)
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> The historical part of the web site will be at the URL:
> www.topicmaps.org/history.
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> The historical section will be addressable from the home page.
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> 3) A formal request from SC34 should be addressed to Michel Biezunski
> in the form of an email that should be sent with a copy to the
> mailing list. Any correspondence on that matter should be done=20
> in the open, i.e., all emails should systematically be copied=20
> to the mailing list. The letter should document the reasons why=20
> it is important for SC34 to use topicmaps.org.
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> Thank you for taking my comments into account for the plenary.
> As you know, I had to leave Atlanta on Tuesday morning and therefore
> won't be able to participate to the plenary.
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> Michel Biezunski
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